New found bible claims Jesus was not crucified.

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New found bible claims Jesus was not crucified.

Unread post by capt.dan » August 10th, 2015, 12:07 am

Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara.

Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul “The Impostor”. The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place.

A report by The National Turk says that the Bible was seized from a gang of smugglers in a Mediterranean-area operation. The report states the gang was charged with smuggling antiquities, illegal excavations, and the possession of explosives. The books itself is valued as high as 40 Million Turkish Liras (approx. 28 mil. Dollars). Man, where is the Thieves Guild, when you need them?



Authenticity

According to reports, experts and religious authorities in Tehram insist that the book is original. The book itself is written with gold lettering, onto loosely-tied leather in Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ.

The text maintains a vision similar to Islam, contradicting the New Testament’s teachings of Christianity. Jesus also foresees the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years later.

It is believed that, during the Council of Nicea, the Catholic Church hand-picked the gospels that form the Bible as we know it today; omitting the Gospel of Barnabas (among many others) in favor of the four canonical gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Many biblical texts have begun to surface over time, including those of the Dead Sea and Gnostic Gospels; but this book especially, seems to worry the Vatican.

The Catholic Church wants in

What does this mean to Christian-derived religions and their followers? Quite a tight spot. The Vatican has asked Turkish authorities to let them examine the contents of the book within the Church. Now that the book has been found, will they come to accept the it and its evidence? Will they deny it altogether? Call it a “Muslim lie”, as did the “Truth” Magazine, in 2000?

To many, this book is a beacon of hope, that believers soon realize that the object of their adoration is arbitrary; and that all text, especially religious text, is subject to interpretation.



What does this mean to atheists/agnostics/secular thinkers? Is the text real? Fake? Does it matter? Hopefully, this news inspires the religious to ask questions, instead of pointing fingers or believing anything blindly.

Please, don’t go poking fun or tossing around the “I told you so!”s. The biggest danger of faith is when people believe what they want to believe, defending against any and all evidence; especially when that evidence revolutionizes their foundation from the ground up. And the biggest culprit to that danger is the ego trap: rejecting/criticizing others, for being unlike you.

For centuries, the “defense” of blind faith has driven nations to war, violence, discrimination, slavery and to become the society of automatons that we are today; and for just as long, it has been justified with lies. If you know better, act like it. end article:

This recent news might shake the faith for some, especially a stanch by the book believer. But to me it's like finding then reading an old diary in which the writer calls foul on the other 3 witnesses that claim to have all seen the 20 pound walleye taken from Holy Crap Lake. I figured out long ago on my own that some liberties were taken with stories from the bible. Others enhanced, left out or forgotten. But I'm still convinced that there is a supreme being that created this world and started us on it. As far as I'm concerned he is our father of fathers.
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Unread post by jaybe » August 10th, 2015, 11:31 am

I do not believe this leaves Christians in “a tight spot” at all. There have been, and will be more challenges to the Bible, to Christianity and to the very existence of God Himself. But it is a misnomer to call faith in Jesus Christ “blind faith”. By definition, blind faith is belief without true understanding, perception, or discrimination. There are many reasons to have confidence in the veracity of the Bible and to believe in Christ as Savior. Here are just a few:
1. Unity - The Bible contains 66 (*) books written over 1,500 years by 40 different writers on 3 different continents but it tells one "big story" of God's plan of salvation that culminated in Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
2. Prophetic Consistency - There are over 300 specific prophecies in the Old Testament that are fulfilled in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the New Testament. There are also many others concerning nations, people and events that were fulfilled in detail.
3. Global Influence - The Bible has had a greater influence on the laws, art, ethics, music and literature of world civilization than any other book in history.
4. Changed Lives - From St. Augustine to Martin Luther to Joni Erickson Tada to countless everyday men, women and children, the words of the Bible have transformed lives unmistakably and forever.
There are many other ways to show that the Bible is true, but even given 1,000 reasons, many people will not accept it, nor will the challenges cease. The main reason people do not acknowledge the Bible to be the inspired Word of God is not ignorance, but unbelief. Even in Jesus’ day this was the case - - and by the way, He was talking to people who claimed to be followers of God. Luke 16:31 - "He (Jesus) said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"
They reject God’s Word and His Son at their own peril, however. Jesus also said, “I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins." – John 8:24
But the good news is that no one needs to perish - "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.” – John 5:24

(*) The 14 or 15 Apocryphal books that are included in some versions of the Bible contain information that contradicts the main body of Scripture, were never quoted by Jesus or the Apostles, and do not share many of the characteristics of the 66 canonical books. The Apocrypha may have some devotional purposes, but it is not inspired.
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Unread post by The Doob » August 11th, 2015, 6:59 am

Amen!!

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Unread post by cross-eyed » October 16th, 2015, 4:20 pm

1st Corinthians 1:18

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